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T O P I C R E V I E WTensionEmpire*AwakenSky16Hello Empire, could you publish the table of aspects ... Too much lines here and makes a nice mess difficult to disentangle ... You will have easier answers ... Very novice but I will try too (for synastry).Looking at the conjunctions I note (if her birth hours are exact) Your both ASC-DC in DC-ASC and idem MC/IC overlay, her juno in your 5th, her ruler 5th (sun) in your ASC. Yours NN / NS and your Saturn conj. her Neptune ... can give a strong feeling to connect the past to the present with a karmic aspects that may be powerful. Read something really interesting here "The dance of saturn and neptune in karmic love relationship: http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html Remember studying synastry is always incredibly interesting but if the charts isn't activated, then strongly stick, on both sides, even if there exist an incredible potentials it will produce nothing I hope this first response to your post will bring you some more TensionEmpireHey Awaken Tell me how where I find the aspect table? or is manually that ppl do it?yeah I think The NN/SN overlays make a something strongAnd i had read about Saturn , Neptune in sinastry, very beautifullI did not know that you can activate your chart, I have heard that you should activate trines.I really apreciate your compassion Awaken AwakenSky16Yes you can do this on "astro.com" and look at the page where your synastry chart is, then you click on your left on "Additional tabs (PDF)". . You can post it after like you did it with your charts. Yes, "Activate" with a real meeting, talking and transits timing also I think... And then to stay together you need some stick in your synastry... TensionEmpireI have posted the list, thanks for teaching me!we have met in a full moon, the full moon some month ago, in pieces maybe, a lovers moonAwakenSky16Small clearing for you Empire because I like research, understand and experiment, I try a little here. If I make rude mistakes thanks to other readers to rectify for learning !!! In your synastry I note :-13 DW moon/sunmercury/sunvenus/saturnvenus/uranusmars/saturnmars/chiron - (also can be one venus/chiron -Mars/chiron)mercury/neptunemercury/saturnPuto/uranusNeptune/saturnJupiter/uranusSome strong and interesting aspects (saturn aspects, pluto/Moon, NN/NS, Asc/Dc, IC/Mc, lilith/juno, pluto/ceres,saturn/neptun, venus/mars, moon/mars...)- Your Ruler 5th uranus semi-sext. her pluto/venus, sext. her Moon/Mercury- Your Ruler 7th mars is in her 5th- Your Ruler 8th venus is in her 5th- Her Ruler 5th Moon conj. your Pluto, trine your sun and sextile your Uranus (R5Th)- Her Ruler 7th Mercury conj. Pluto (Rsd8th)- Her Ruler 8th Venus aspect your sun (Rsd5th, your Uranus (R5th) and your Jupiter,saturn.- Sd Houses : These houses show in addition to your natales your attractions (signs and planets inside)Your Rsd5th : SunYour Rsd7th : VenusYour Rsd8th : PlutoHer Rsd5th : MercuryHer Rsd7th : sunHer Rsd8th : MercurySO : - Your sun (Rsd5th) trine. her sun (Rsd7th), Moon (R5th), Mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th)and Inconj. her Venus (R8th).- Your Mars (R7th)quintile her Sun (Rsd7th)- Your Uranus (R5th) sextile her Moon (R5th),mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th), semi-sextile her venus (R8th)- Your Pluto (Rsd8th) conj. her Moon (R5th) and her mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th)- There aren't aspects contact between : - Your Venus (R8th, Rsd7th) and her Rth and Rsdth (Moon, Mercury and Venus)- Your Mars (R7th) and her Moon (R5th)and her mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th) and her Venus (R8th)- Yours Moons- "she sayd to me that we have nothing to do with eachother, what i guess is not true." Maybe we can say (I try a postulate, please tell me if I am wrong ) :- The aspects between yours rulers and hers seems to be too soft (Trine, sextile, semi-sext. are confortable, friendly), need more hard aspects (square/conj. and opp.)to stick you together for a longer time pass your first attraction and feeling confortable. - Some importants aspects are missing between your Venus/Mars (R7th/Rsd7th) with hers. I note some square aspects with yours R7th/Rsd7th and her saturn...- Her Mercury seems important for her, and doesn't make enought strong aspects with you, miss some mercury aspects for communication also between you both...Well... I really threw myself into the water, really don't hesitate to give me an echo if I'm really beside this postulate nordicsoultoo sleepy, but thinking about exat aspect between your saturn and her sun (5house ruler). her venus (widely square your saturn)and sextile your ascendant. it seems she likes the way you move and look, but her mars in your 12. i do not have data from other people, but my personal experience is negative with people putting their mars in my 12. they always betray me. your moon in her 12 would instead have a nice touch. i have met people putting moon in my 12 and i feel i can confide them easily. not exactly the same with mars.venus-saturn double wahmy tend to develop slowly into physical contact. there is not rush. Isee her needs for intensity with the moon in scorpio and mars-sun scorpio. also her jupiter in 7 added to her sun-mars in 9 and venus in sagitarious emphasize the saggitarian theme for her. so she is very scorpionic, but also has a strong jupiterean side, this goes well with your leo placement and the scorpio energy blend well with your cancerian energy. her moon trine your soon is just nice, but i would not think that this makes for a romantic relationship, necesarily. if your venus-mars fall into her 5th, i would not understand that she does not find you her type, but is in her 6th? not sure i can see properly. overall, i would agree with previous post about the lacking of stronger aspects, considering the type of person she is. with the saturnian slowing things down, it may be a matter of time for her to start feeling something. her cappy moon may just need time. it may feel weird for her to put her saturn ruler of her moon in your 8th house. maybe the 8th house matter are felt deeply by her and since she has strong scorpio, she may shy away of too much of the same energy. my theory is that when someone has too much of something, they may shy away from same energy. it may also be that she identifies more with her jupiterean lighhearted side and the fact that she triggers in you 8th house material, may scare her. saturn bring fears and she may be afraid of a pandora box hidden in that 8th house triggering also her scorpionic side that she may be repressing somehow? if we add to the mix your moon in her 12.. well... you may trigger in her unconscious material that she does not feel comfortable. I would give time from the distance to see how this evolve. if you feel like posting the composite. i will try to look in more details during the week and comeback with feedback...bestNS TensionEmpire@AwakenSkyThis think with the ruler of the house i don`t fully grasp yet.yeah, but we share the square between my saturn and her sun, i guess that counts for lasting.hmm, we had a nice time talking, like in our first meeting we went all the way talking and telling each others storys, i believe there was much curiosity in both sides. but after she changed our talk also, because it is only me wanting to understand what happened.TensionEmpireHello nordicsoul thanks for your time, i believe much of what you said is coerent, actually I was surprised by some of what i read.i will take a look at mars in 12no rush right? pretty much a life lesson for me.so you confused the composite with her chart, i have only posted the sinastry and secontly the composite, but yet what you wrote make sence. she steped back. and I agree wth you about giving time from distancenordicsoulI cannot look in detail and do not want to give comments without substance...as a next step, I would suggest you look at the aspect and houses where the composite planets fall into her chart. for instance, is that sun, saturn, chiron, etch makes an aspect to her personal planets? in which of her houses fall the composite planets. that could give you an idea how she feel the relationship. i have observed that this exercised seems to be accurate. it reaveals how the person feels about being in a relationship with you. this is different from a feeling she may have toward you. instead is the feeling the the combined energies trigger or not in her...if i have time during the week i will look at the composite with some care...bestTensionEmpirethanks nordic!I`ll take a look!all the bestAwakenSky16- "This think with the ruler of the house i don`t fully grasp yet."Ok... I think it's always interesting in synastry to look at angles and principal houses for love, attraction, feeling and understand what can put together two persons.You have now your secondary houses and they rulers (sd5th/sd7th and sd8th) . You can use them to understand more in yours research. Each time you have a partner who put her planets in yours "love" houses it will be interesting for you. After you can have a look at yours on her to know what she feels for you. Same for aspects between rulers of these houses and aspects with yours, with your planets, and hers. It's a first approach. (If you are interested to understand how find Sd houses, you can have a look to a method in the Nordic's post "The progressed romantic houses & our romantic preferences nordicsoul" (Lotis White answer)).- "yeah, but we share the square between my saturn and her sun, i guess that counts for lasting."Yes ! You have with her some really strongs saturn aspects also with DW and some attraction aspects etc. Several DW are important because it shows that you share both the same aspect and it's favorable to stick you together. But have a look at your synastry tab : when you have the aspect but not her, it can mean you feel it more than her or it's just you... (you need also to look at her natal to understand if she feel it when she has the aspect too or if not). This really makes a lot of things to study, and more, before you have a good overall view of your relationship ...Synastry still show a potential one...If we look only the aspects, we can think : it's an interesting relationship, but it could be enough (?)... Nordic’s answer is interesting, let's wait for the composit interpretation... For exp. : In my last relationship we have saturn/sun DW (conj./square) and some other strong but sadly until now it isn't enought to stick us together Things are always more complicated than some great aspects. I would like also to know more about astrology to understand... but I can’t yet.It seems like to read a story in a book : two words in a chapter can’t give an idea of the sentence (risk of misunderstanding). We must read all lines in the chapter then all the book to understand the story…I wonder what can makes the empty space/aspects between yours personal planets in your tab between (since yours moon/moon-Moon/venus until your mars/moon-mars/venus : 12 aspects seem miss (?)) ? But maybe you haven't select "all aspects" when you make yours charts... Then you will have also yours Node aspects in the tabs. I Hope you will have some more answers to have a better understanding for your relationship.TensionEmpireThanks Awaken, it will work out TensionEmpireSo I will bump this, why not? maybe there are other people around we havent talked anymore, but she keeps looking at me when we see us at night,I can`t believe she is doing this to hurt me..In the "click with a question on your mind"I got the 5 of cups the other day, sad, i would saybut today i got the 6 of cups, the sequel!and that is actually pretty good, but actually also talking about the past..Not a coincidence right? what do you think?Oh, and for sure this was a "milestone" relationship, a lesson involving this "platonic love dreams" of mine.Kind of for me to lern to let my morals more aside, and be more animal.Dose it make sense to you, looking at the sinastry?
Read something really interesting here "The dance of saturn and neptune in karmic love relationship: http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html
Remember studying synastry is always incredibly interesting but if the charts isn't activated, then strongly stick, on both sides, even if there exist an incredible potentials it will produce nothing
I hope this first response to your post will bring you some more
Tell me how where I find the aspect table? or is manually that ppl do it?
yeah I think The NN/SN overlays make a something strong
And i had read about Saturn , Neptune in sinastry, very beautifull
I did not know that you can activate your chart, I have heard that you should activate trines.
I really apreciate your compassion Awaken
Yes, "Activate" with a real meeting, talking and transits timing also I think... And then to stay together you need some stick in your synastry...
we have met in a full moon, the full moon some month ago, in pieces maybe, a lovers moon
In your synastry I note :
-13 DW moon/sunmercury/sunvenus/saturnvenus/uranusmars/saturnmars/chiron - (also can be one venus/chiron -Mars/chiron)mercury/neptunemercury/saturnPuto/uranusNeptune/saturnJupiter/uranus
Some strong and interesting aspects (saturn aspects, pluto/Moon, NN/NS, Asc/Dc, IC/Mc, lilith/juno, pluto/ceres,saturn/neptun, venus/mars, moon/mars...)
- Your Ruler 5th uranus semi-sext. her pluto/venus, sext. her Moon/Mercury- Your Ruler 7th mars is in her 5th- Your Ruler 8th venus is in her 5th
- Her Ruler 5th Moon conj. your Pluto, trine your sun and sextile your Uranus (R5Th)- Her Ruler 7th Mercury conj. Pluto (Rsd8th)- Her Ruler 8th Venus aspect your sun (Rsd5th, your Uranus (R5th) and your Jupiter,saturn.
- Sd Houses : These houses show in addition to your natales your attractions (signs and planets inside)Your Rsd5th : SunYour Rsd7th : VenusYour Rsd8th : PlutoHer Rsd5th : MercuryHer Rsd7th : sunHer Rsd8th : Mercury
SO :
- Your sun (Rsd5th) trine. her sun (Rsd7th), Moon (R5th), Mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th)and Inconj. her Venus (R8th).
- Your Mars (R7th)quintile her Sun (Rsd7th)
- Your Uranus (R5th) sextile her Moon (R5th),mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th), semi-sextile her venus (R8th)
- Your Pluto (Rsd8th) conj. her Moon (R5th) and her mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th)
- There aren't aspects contact between : - Your Venus (R8th, Rsd7th) and her Rth and Rsdth (Moon, Mercury and Venus)- Your Mars (R7th) and her Moon (R5th)and her mercury (R7th/Rsd8th/Rsd5th) and her Venus (R8th)- Yours Moons
- "she sayd to me that we have nothing to do with eachother, what i guess is not true." Maybe we can say (I try a postulate, please tell me if I am wrong ) :
- The aspects between yours rulers and hers seems to be too soft (Trine, sextile, semi-sext. are confortable, friendly), need more hard aspects (square/conj. and opp.)to stick you together for a longer time pass your first attraction and feeling confortable. - Some importants aspects are missing between your Venus/Mars (R7th/Rsd7th) with hers. I note some square aspects with yours R7th/Rsd7th and her saturn...- Her Mercury seems important for her, and doesn't make enought strong aspects with you, miss some mercury aspects for communication also between you both...
Well... I really threw myself into the water, really don't hesitate to give me an echo if I'm really beside this postulate
venus-saturn double wahmy tend to develop slowly into physical contact. there is not rush.
Isee her needs for intensity with the moon in scorpio and mars-sun scorpio. also her jupiter in 7 added to her sun-mars in 9 and venus in sagitarious emphasize the saggitarian theme for her. so she is very scorpionic, but also has a strong jupiterean side, this goes well with your leo placement and the scorpio energy blend well with your cancerian energy. her moon trine your soon is just nice, but i would not think that this makes for a romantic relationship, necesarily. if your venus-mars fall into her 5th, i would not understand that she does not find you her type, but is in her 6th? not sure i can see properly.
overall, i would agree with previous post about the lacking of stronger aspects, considering the type of person she is. with the saturnian slowing things down, it may be a matter of time for her to start feeling something. her cappy moon may just need time. it may feel weird for her to put her saturn ruler of her moon in your 8th house. maybe the 8th house matter are felt deeply by her and since she has strong scorpio, she may shy away of too much of the same energy. my theory is that when someone has too much of something, they may shy away from same energy. it may also be that she identifies more with her jupiterean lighhearted side and the fact that she triggers in you 8th house material, may scare her. saturn bring fears and she may be afraid of a pandora box hidden in that 8th house triggering also her scorpionic side that she may be repressing somehow? if we add to the mix your moon in her 12.. well... you may trigger in her unconscious material that she does not feel comfortable.
I would give time from the distance to see how this evolve. if you feel like posting the composite. i will try to look in more details during the week and comeback with feedback...
bestNS
This think with the ruler of the house i don`t fully grasp yet.
yeah, but we share the square between my saturn and her sun, i guess that counts for lasting.
hmm, we had a nice time talking, like in our first meeting we went all the way talking and telling each others storys, i believe there was much curiosity in both sides.
but after she changed our talk also, because it is only me wanting to understand what happened.
i will take a look at mars in 12
no rush right? pretty much a life lesson for me.
so you confused the composite with her chart, i have only posted the sinastry and secontly the composite, but yet what you wrote make sence. she steped back. and I agree wth you about giving time from distance
as a next step, I would suggest you look at the aspect and houses where the composite planets fall into her chart. for instance, is that sun, saturn, chiron, etch makes an aspect to her personal planets? in which of her houses fall the composite planets. that could give you an idea how she feel the relationship. i have observed that this exercised seems to be accurate. it reaveals how the person feels about being in a relationship with you. this is different from a feeling she may have toward you. instead is the feeling the the combined energies trigger or not in her...
if i have time during the week i will look at the composite with some care...
best
all the best
You have now your secondary houses and they rulers (sd5th/sd7th and sd8th) . You can use them to understand more in yours research. Each time you have a partner who put her planets in yours "love" houses it will be interesting for you. After you can have a look at yours on her to know what she feels for you. Same for aspects between rulers of these houses and aspects with yours, with your planets, and hers. It's a first approach. (If you are interested to understand how find Sd houses, you can have a look to a method in the Nordic's post "The progressed romantic houses & our romantic preferences nordicsoul" (Lotis White answer)).
- "yeah, but we share the square between my saturn and her sun, i guess that counts for lasting."Yes ! You have with her some really strongs saturn aspects also with DW and some attraction aspects etc. Several DW are important because it shows that you share both the same aspect and it's favorable to stick you together. But have a look at your synastry tab : when you have the aspect but not her, it can mean you feel it more than her or it's just you... (you need also to look at her natal to understand if she feel it when she has the aspect too or if not). This really makes a lot of things to study, and more, before you have a good overall view of your relationship ...Synastry still show a potential one...
If we look only the aspects, we can think : it's an interesting relationship, but it could be enough (?)... Nordic’s answer is interesting, let's wait for the composit interpretation... For exp. : In my last relationship we have saturn/sun DW (conj./square) and some other strong but sadly until now it isn't enought to stick us together
Things are always more complicated than some great aspects. I would like also to know more about astrology to understand... but I can’t yet.
It seems like to read a story in a book : two words in a chapter can’t give an idea of the sentence (risk of misunderstanding). We must read all lines in the chapter then all the book to understand the story…
I wonder what can makes the empty space/aspects between yours personal planets in your tab between (since yours moon/moon-Moon/venus until your mars/moon-mars/venus : 12 aspects seem miss (?)) ? But maybe you haven't select "all aspects" when you make yours charts... Then you will have also yours Node aspects in the tabs.
I Hope you will have some more answers to have a better understanding for your relationship.
maybe there are other people around
we havent talked anymore, but she keeps looking at me when we see us at night,I can`t believe she is doing this to hurt me..
In the "click with a question on your mind"I got the 5 of cups the other day, sad, i would say
but today i got the 6 of cups, the sequel!and that is actually pretty good, but actually also talking about the past..
Not a coincidence right? what do you think?
Oh, and for sure this was a "milestone" relationship, a lesson involving this "platonic love dreams" of mine.Kind of for me to lern to let my morals more aside, and be more animal.Dose it make sense to you, looking at the sinastry?
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